Tuesday, June 2, 2009

Re: [Geopriv] The "geo" URI draft

I think this is an OK idea, but not inconsistent with having WGS84 as
the only CRS in the first draft. The extension that allows alternate
CRSes can use the EPSG numbers instead of special names.

--Richard

Carl Reed wrote:
> How about a more generic approach in which the EPSG codes are used
> instead of a specific datum name (which may not have international
> agreement if defined by this group!). The EPSG code for WGS 84 2d is
> 4326. Or you could use the normative name as defined in the EPSG
> database. There is an online registry so that any code/name could be
> resolved by the application and all of the pertinent (and normative) CRS
> metadata is made accessible.
>
> This is the approach we use in the OGC for any and all CRS references in
> any of our standards - as does ISO and more recently OASIS.
>
> And finally, WGS 84 is not purely a datum. WGS 84 comprises a standard
> coordinate frame for the Earth, a standard spheroidal reference surface
> (the datum or reference ellipsoid) for raw altitude data, and a
> gravitational equipotential surface (the geoid) that defines the nominal
> sea level.
>
> Cheers
>
> Carl
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tatham Oddie" <tatham@oddie.com.au>
> To: "'Andy Mabbett'" <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>; "'GEOPRIV'"
> <geopriv@ietf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Geopriv] The "geo" URI draft
>
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> I personally think the datum information should be part of the URI
>> content
>> and not part of the scheme as proposed by "geo-wgs84:" and "geo-fooo:"
>>
>> Applications are registered at the OS and browser levels to a particular
>> scheme, which in this case would be "geo". Pushing datum information
>> to the
>> scheme means that an application will have to register for every possible
>> datum that it supports and provide no capacity for it to attempt to
>> handle
>> other datums. It would be somewhat akin to having each different HTTP
>> authentication mechanism exposed as "http-basic:", "http-ntlm:", etc.
>>
>> Further, it would require an additional IANA registration every time a
>> new
>> datum was considered (http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html).
>>
>> As such, I'd propose to stick to something like
>> "geo:wgs84:12.34,56.78" and
>> "geo:foo:12.34,56.78".
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tatham Oddie
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Andy Mabbett
>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 June 2009 7:00 AM
>> To: GEOPRIV
>> Subject: [Geopriv] The "geo" URI draft
>>
>> In message <4A2578CE.1050204@viagenie.ca>, Simon Perreault
>> <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> writes
>>
>>> Making the parameter mandatory, even maybe promoting it to a hierarchy
>>> element, would probably result in better interoperability. How would
>>> people feel about this?
>>>
>>> geo:wgs84:12.34,56.78
>>> geo:foooo:12.34,56.78
>>
>> and...
>>
>> In message <4A257C16.5020800@stpeter.im>, Peter Saint-Andre
>> <stpeter@stpeter.im> writes
>>
>>> Why not "wgs84:12.34,56.78"?
>>
>>
>> Either model would be OK by me; as would:
>>
>> geo-wgs84:12.34,56.78
>> geo-foooo:12.34,56.78
>>
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
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