The "argumentation factor" of this working group is a fractal constant.
The value of argument across any period of time will be the same;
regardless of the number of items under discussion.
As we see - now there's an argument about the order in which things
should be argued...
Cheers,
Martin
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From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rosen
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 10:24 PM
To: Winterbottom, James; geopriv@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] The next HELD work item
I would prefer the order be
1) deref
2) Identity
3) LIS discovery
4) measurement
Specifically, I know of no work pending on measurements. It's only
marginally useful: where the device has measurement information but does
not
do the calculation AND there is no other protocol that is network
specific.
I agree that the case of the device providing measurements is common,
specifically in wireless networks, but the reality is that they have a
solution, and the HELD solution isn't likely to be adopted in favor of
their
existing solution.
On the other hand, we need deref right away, because we expect LbyR to
be
common. I would like to see Identity right after that to provide OBO
capability, needed by U.K. and Canadian emergency call, as well as NENA
i3
(the latter uses it for legacy wireline phone number to location
mapping).
LIS discovery seems more important that measurements to me also. I
could be
convinced to move it ahead of Identity.
Brian
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Winterbottom, James
> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 2:55 AM
> To: geopriv@ietf.org
> Subject: [Geopriv] The next HELD work item
>
> Hi All,
>
> A few weeks ago a number of people raised concerns about milestones
> that
> were being suggested against the new geopriv charter, and there were
> some requests for some others to be included.
>
> Since then I have had a number of discussions with various people to
> try
> and ascertain what the best way forward is.
>
> In order to get a more of less complete solution we have 4 outstanding
> documents that we need, in no particular order these are:
>
> Measurements
>
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-measurements-04)
>
> Residential Gateway LIS discovery
>
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-res-gw-lis-discovery-
> 0
> 1)
>
> HELD dereference
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-deref-protocol-
> 03
> )
>
>
> HELD Identity extensions
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-identity-
> ext
> ensions-09)
>
>
> After some discussion with Cullen his preference is very strongly to
> progress these documents one at a time, when one is done then the next
> can come in. The rationale for this is so that we can concentrate on
> getting one document done at a time rather than dilute the attention
of
> the group across a range of documents all at once. This is okay
> providing we can move the documents at something faster than the
> current
> pace has been.
>
> The upshot is that we had to pick one, and after my discussion with
> some
> of the interested parties we would like to propose that we work on the
> Measurements draft and that we use
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-measurements-04
> as
> a starting point.
>
>
> Cheers
> James
>
>
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