Tuesday, July 7, 2009

Re: [Geopriv] [geopriv] #10: Should not encourage use of "old" encoding

So assuming you are both referring to the MUST that relates to receipt of version 0 as well as version 1.

If you downgrade this you automatically lose compatibility. You can only do this if you are confident that you are in an environment where it is impossible for there to be v0 senders.

As the normal practice is to write some sort of explanation whenever SHOULD or RECOMMENDED is used (they mean the same thing), explaining the circumstances under which the requirement is not expected to exist, then that is what you will have to say in the text.

regards

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org
> [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of James M. Polk
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:14 PM
> To: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com; geopriv@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Geopriv] [geopriv] #10: Should not encourage
> use of "old" encoding
>
> At 11:13 AM 6/24/2009, Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org
> > >[mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext James M. Polk
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:39 PM
> > >To: geopriv@ietf.org
> > >Subject: Re: [Geopriv] [geopriv] #10: Should not encourage
> > >use of "old" encoding
> > >
> > >At 07:20 PM 6/22/2009, geopriv issue tracker wrote:
> > >>#10: Should not encourage use of "old" encoding
> > >>---------------------------------------+--------------------
> > >-----------
> > >>---------------------------------------+-----
> > >> Reporter: martin.thomson@andrew.com | Owner:
> > >>
> > >> Type: enhancement | Status: new
> > >>
> > >> Priority: major | Milestone:
> > >> draft-ietf-geopriv-3825bis
> > >>Component: rfc3825bis | Version:
> > >>
> > >> Severity: - | Keywords:
> > >>
> > >>---------------------------------------+--------------------
> > >-----------
> > >>---------------------------------------+-----
> > >> When creating a new version of 3825, we need to make
> a statement
> > >> about how to interoperate with the old version.
> > >>
> > >> Suggestion: permit receipt of the old encoding, but (strongly)
> > >> discourage the sending of it.
> > >>
> > >> That is:
> > >>
> > >> Implementations of this specification MUST support
> receipt of an
> > >> option that includes a version of 0. Implementations of this
> > >> specification MUST not create or send an option with a
> > >version of 0.
> > >
> > >I strongly disagree with this goal. There may be
> > >configurations that understand perfectly well what sending a
> > >version 0 Option to a client means. This should be a local
> > >configuration decision. I don't have an issue with adding
> > >text providing guidance to prefer that the v1 Option be sent
> > >(and why - and not just "cuz it's better"), but we cannot
> > >prevent v0 from being sent, which Martin's "MUST" above
> > >explicitly states.
> >
> >I also disagree with the proposed text.
> >I'd like to see the first MUST be a MAY. I am ok with the
> second MUST.
>
> The first MUST should be a SHOULD.
>
> The second sentence is a matter of local configuration, which
> should be consistent uniform throughout the local domain.
>
> For example, Cisco San Jose (our main campus) should be
> RECOMMENDED to have the same configuration, but not
> necessarily the same as the Cisco Texas region, or the Cisco
> North Carolina region. This could be a case of configuration
> migration (i.e., upgrading the config from one campus to the
> next). This "configuration" by any local IT department
> shouldn't violate an RFC, which is being suggested.
>
>
>
> > >>--
> > >>Ticket URL:
> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/geopriv/trac/ticket/10>
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