Thursday, March 18, 2010

[Geopriv] Domain name authentication in draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery

Geopriv folks,

 

With respect to Pasi's DISCUSS on discovery, I've discussed this with Richard and he suggested that I attempt to close this issue before the meeting.

 

I propose to alter the existing text on this section as below.

 

If, however, you feel that authenticating based on the AUS (the U-NAPTR input) as described in RFC 3958 is a better solution, don't refrain from letting the WG know this.  Input either way would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

  (After removing the DNSSEC note prior to this)

     

    [...]  Using the

   domain name in the URI is more compatible with existing HTTP client

   software, which authenticate servers based on the domain name in the

   URI.    

 

+   LIS authentication based on the domain name from the URI depends on

+   integrity protection of the DNS queries used in U-NAPTR resolution.  DNS

+   security (DNSSEC) [RFC4033] provides some integrity protection for DNS

+   records.  Alternatively, if authoritative servers and resolvers are

+   located within the access network, physical or link layer security might

+   be employed to protect against modification of DNS records.

 

This is consistent with the recommendations for DHCP, where we are relying on similar mechanisms.

 

--Martin

 

...

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com [mailto:Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com]

> > Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 4:42 AM

> > To: Thomson, Martin; iesg@ietf.org

> > Cc: geopriv@ietf.org

> > Subject: RE: DISCUSS and COMMENT: draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery

...

> >

> > I agree that ease of implementation is an important concern.

> However,

> > for HELD one would think that security is also an important concern.

> > Unlike normal HTTPS, the current draft essentially assumes that DNS

> is

> > secure -- otherwise, the client cannot really authenticate the LIS.

> >

> > While DHCP is also relying on a "secure network" to some degree, the

> > draft does note that the input to U-NAPTR resolution could come from

> > other (possibly more secure) sources.

> >

> > The correct approach to NAPTR resolution and TLS certificates

> (compare

> > NAPTR input against the certificate) is also used in other places

> > (like draft-ietf-sip-domain-certs), so it's clearly not impossible to

> > implement either.

> >

> > I would hope this topic gets discussed in the GEOPRIV WG in Anaheim.

> >

> > If others agree that it's OK to assume a "secure network" (even

> > when DHCP is not used), then at the very least, the document needs

> > to much more clearly highlight  this assumption (and the resulting

> > limited applicability).

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Pasi

>

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