Thursday, September 17, 2009

Re: [Geopriv] WG2LC: draft-ietf-geopriv-held-identity-extensions-00.txt

Well. Think about all the work that is going on in the IETF when it
comes to transition architectures and considering not-updated devices. I
believe that there is now in the IETF more interest to meet the
expectations of the deployment rather than designing clean-slate
architectures.

Example to support my statement: Proxy Mobile IP, IPv4/IPv6 transition

Ciao
Hannes

PS: I very strongly believe that we have to care about the intermediate
deployment stages as well since we otherwise will never get to the final
stage either.

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From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org]
On Behalf Of ext Marc Linsner
Sent: 17 September, 2009 19:36
To: Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk
Cc: GEOPRIV
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] WG2LC:
draft-ietf-geopriv-held-identity-extensions-00.txt


Ray,

You won't find too much sympathy in the IETF for not wanting to
upgrade. We're talking about computing devices, not too many deployed
that don't require upgrades. I believe the black-jack game on my iPhone
has been upgraded at least 4 times in the 8 month life of the phone (and
the OS at least 3 times).

OBO is, IMO, from an end-user pov, a privacy disaster waiting to
happen. But, with proper authentication and authorization it might be
doable within the constraints of GeoPriv.

-Marc-

On 9/17/09 12:05 PM, "Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk"
<Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk> wrote:


> I'm also not sure that NENA is asking for
third-party/OBO, I believe it's
> SPs asking for it. NENA simply wants location
included with call setup.

Getting location included with call setup requires
software and/or firmware updates to every (mobile) SIP device on the
planet.

NICC therefore wants OBO, because in the short-to-medium
term it's the only way to get location without requiring those device
updates.

OBO can work now, with the only pre-requisite being
deployment of LIS's on each IP access network. Those LIS's will be
required for first party queries anyway, for those devices that don't
have GPS capablity.

Ray




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