Monday, September 21, 2009

Re: [Geopriv] HELD using XCAP wrt Common Policy/Geolocation Policy

At 03:42 PM 9/21/2009, Richard Barnes wrote:
>James: Don't worry. Nothing in held-context is getting rid of or
>duplicating Common Policy. The difference is that held-context does
>some things that are not possible today with common-policy or
>geopriv-policy framework.
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>Hannes/James: Thinking back to the discussions at the Dallas interim
>some time ago, I thought that there was a motion to move the
>held-context toward being more of an extension to common-policy,
>rather than an alternative policy transport. Am I recalling correctly?

there was something along those lines, but it's been a while now so
my memory isn't the greatest (I've killed a lot of brain cells since then ;-)

If your memory is right, then I would have pushed the held-context
effort to be way more general - making it an update (i.e., an
extension to) common policy; something that I don't get the
impression it ever did. That said - why hasn't it moved to being
more general in scope?


>--Richard
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>James M. Polk wrote:
>>At 02:27 AM 9/21/2009, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) wrote:
>>>I could imagine that adding the ability to upload Common
>>>Policy/Geolocation Policy as an add-on to
>>>draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-context-04.txt is a lot easier than
>>>using XCAP, particularly since I believe that 95% of the cases will only
>>>make usage of a fraction of Common Policy (and nothing from the
>>>geolocation policy document).
>>I'm trying to figure out what is being said here in Hannes' paragraph above.
>>Is HELD really not needing Common Policy/Geolocation Policy because
>>it has another ID specifying some other mechanism?
>>If so, why would this WG allow this?
>>Common Policy is supposed to be "common" to everything, right?
>>Geolocation Policy is supposed to be used by everything Geopriv
>>specific, right?
>>It appears the net result of this - if true - is that DHCP has to
>>jump through hoops that HELD doesn't, even though HELD can.
>>James
>>
>>>Ciao
>>>Hannes

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