Friday, August 20, 2010

Re: [Geopriv] [geopriv] #38: Section 1

In an effort to cover Martin's concern about the DHC server using
alternative location determination methods. How about:

"The mechanism defined here may also be utilized to provide location to
wireless hosts. DHC relay agent sub-options (RAIO) [RFC3046] is one method
a DHC server might use to perform host location determination. Currently,
the relay agent sub-options do not include data sets required for device
level location determination of wireless hosts. In cases where the DHC
server uses RAIO for location determination, a wireless host can use this
mechanism to discover location of the radio access point, or the area of
coverage for the radio access point."

(this may be too wordy for the Intro section)

Comments?

-Marc-

On 8/20/10 2:26 AM, "Bernard Aboba" <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Within the wireless case there are static, nomadic and mobile cases. I
> think that some of the text you suggest relates to all wireless cases, not
> just mobile. So how about this?
>
> "The mechanism defined here may also be utilized to provide location to
> wireless hosts. DHC relay agent sub-options [RFC3046] enable the DHCP
> server to perform host location determination. Currently, the relay agent
> sub-options do not include data sets required for device level location
> determination of wireless hosts. A wireless host can use this mechanism
> to discover location of the radio access point, or the area of coverage for
> the radio access point."
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Linsner [mailto:mlinsner@cisco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:41 AM
> To: Bernard Aboba; trac@tools.ietf.org
> Cc: geopriv@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Geopriv] [geopriv] #38: Section 1
>
> Bernard,
>
> On 8/13/10 1:31 PM, "Bernard Aboba" <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, what you say below makes a lot of sense. If a mobile host wants an
>> updated
>> location, it has to obtain it somehow, regardless of the LCP it is using.
> In
>> the case
>> of DHCP this need not necessarily entail obtaining a new address. Given
> that,
>> is
>> the "applicability" text really unique to DHCP?
>>
>> Also, I'd also like to see some statement made about wireless usage, if
> only
>> to make
>> it clear that the mechanism is not purely for use in wired scenarios.
>>
>
> 3825 says,
>
> "
> Wireless hosts can utilize this option to gain knowledge of the
> location of the radio access point used during host configuration,
> but would need some more exotic mechanisms, maybe GPS, or maybe a
> future DHCP option, which includes a list of geo-locations like that
> defined here, containing the locations of the radio access points
> that are close to the client.
> "
>
> draft 3825bis says,
>
> "
> The options defined in this document have limited applicability for
> mobile hosts. Typically DHCP clients refresh their configuration in
> response to changes in interface state or pending lease expirations.
> As a result, when a mobile host changes location without subsequently
> completing another DHCP exchange, location configuration information
> initially obtained via DHCP could become outdated.
> "
>
> I suggest replacing the above with,
>
> "
> The options defined in this document may have limited applicability for
> mobile hosts. The mechanism defined here utilizes DHC relay agent
> sub-options (RFC3046) enabling the DHC server to perform host location
> determination. Currently, the relay agent sub-options do not include data
> sets required for device level location determination of mobile hosts. A
> mobile host can use this mechanism to discover location of the radio access
> point, or the area of coverage for the radio access point.
> "
>
> Comments?
>
> -Marc-
>
>
>


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